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  DC Ramblings: A non-comprehensive review of some lowlights

  by sir82 in

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  recently attended the dc.

  there have been mny threads already on this, but here are some random thoughts giving my take on what i saw & heard.... .

  -- attendance was about the same as last year, averaging around 8000 per session.

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  "Jehovah provides all the spiritual food that is needed - but some feel it is not enough. Some are studying the original Hebrew and Greek that the Bible was written in, as if to check the accuracy of the New World Translation, then discussing their findings in private groups and online. You should read the foreward to the New World Translation. The New World Translation Committee had Jehovah's backing, these other groups do not."

  ... So I guess we older JWs will hae to expunge the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of The Christian Greek Scriptures (of which they produced at least 850,000) and Wilson's The Empahtic Diaglott from out home libraries. ....
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  Watchtower Society Fate?

  by mind blown in

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  2. child-abuse

  from what i'm seeing on other sites many are now coming out of the woodwork to file charges against the wts.. in all reality with the conti case payout, could the wts and individual congregations (also having to pay) really sustain these blows?

  and if so how would this play out?

  they're not as rich as rc religion.

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  ...Not only against the Watchtower, but when will Caesar prosecute local elders who willfully conceal the identities of kinwn pedophiles in their midst, and the WT lawyers throw them under the bus?

  Holy Monetary Penalties, Jail Terms, Batman!!
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  Spare the Rod and spoil the child, How did that work for you

  by jam in

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  in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.

  of using the rod for discipline.

  the notion that children.

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  It seems the WT has toned down its "spare the rod" rhetoric over the past decade.
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  Hardest most awkward parts of being mentally out but physically in

  by BU2B in

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  i am still physically in but am completely out mentally.. i was curious for those who spent some time in the borg while being mentally out or are still in that position, what is the worst, hardest or most awkward parts... for me i intensly dislike attending the meetings however its bearable as i can just let my mind wander, but field service is awful.

  i cannot try to bring someone in to a group that i am trying to plot a way out of.

  so now i try my best to either spend the day driving around to others fruitless rv's (we have somewhat rural territory) or eating out at an extended breakfast or if door to door cannot be avoided, i try to work alone and not ring bells.

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  ... having to inconspuously gag in the presence of a dubbie who speaks of being "in the truth."
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  Latest convention brochure on,,, the Governing Body

  by cedars in

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  i've finally get my hands on a pdf of one of the two newly released brochures, this one entitled "who are doing jehovah's will today?".

  here's a link so you can download your own copy.... http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/98881625/file.html.

  predictably, the brochure is extremely vague on key topics.

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  Quendi, what "expunged" the "types" and "antitypes" theology from the current JW lexicon is that death of Fred Franz, and the subsequent lack of anyone remotely capable of donning his mantle. The current seven-man GB is a singularly unimpressive lot of apparatchiks, not one of whom does any writing for the publications. During their watch, the once highly-anticipated "new light" book releases of prophetic commentary at yearly conventions have under given way to fluffy, insubstantial Bible Atlases, glitzy brochures of self-promoting revisionist JW history, DVDs, CDs, songbooks, etc.
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

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  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  "Room 215 , There is a petition with some "signatures." Every movement's got to start somewhere. "

  Noted, Hermano, with thanks; noboby would be happier than I if proven wrong or overly pessimistic.
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  How many ex-jws poster here now believe in Hellfire, immortality of soul, trinity, etc;

  by booker-t in

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  i am just curious about this because although i agree with many of the posters here that the wt society is guilty of many horrible deeds, i still believe they are right when it comes to doctrinal things as i mention.

  especially hellfire.

  i just don't see how anybody that has studied the bible for many years like many of the ex-jws here can make an about face and go back to believing hellfire.

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  " However there is an underlying hidden apostate message in the elusive pursuit of "perfect doctrine" by means of "doctrinal dissection". The false anti-Christ message is that we are put right with God based on finding and following the correct doctrine/s."

  Bravo! Well said, Fernando (better than I ever could).....
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  Stabbing at my old kingdom hall yesterday

  by irondork in

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  http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20120622/news/306220009/woman-stabbed-outside-bible-study?odyssey=nav%7chead.

  a man stabbed his wife outside her church thursday afternoon at kingdom hall on old spartanburg road, authorities said.. leonard edwards jr., 46, was being held thursday night in the greenville county detention center on charges of attempted murder and possession of a knife during commission of a violent crime, according to master deputy laura campbell of the sheriffs office and jail records.. the woman suffered non-life-threatening injuries and was taken to a hospital, campbell said.

  she said the woman was stabbed once in the back.. about 30 to 40 church members were present for the bible study, campbell said.. a man asked the woman to come out of the church, and she did, campbell said.. she then ran back into the church followed by a man armed with a knife, campbell said.. the man had knocked her to the ground and stabbed her, she said.. when deputies arrived, congregation members were holding a man in the sanctuary, campbell said.. .

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  does calling a "congregation" a "church" qualify as persecution? Geez
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  CHANNEL C FORUM DISCUSSES ANNULLING DISFELLOSHIPPINGS AND REINSTATING PRIVILEGES BY GETTING AROUND WTS ELDER'S BOOK POLICIES

  by oppostate in

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  donny's heart-breaking posthttp://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/227658/1/just-venting-i-hate-the-societyabout his jw-elder son feeling he must abide by wt's latest crackdown on shunning df'ed family members reminded me about the following post at channel c forum that i "view" from time to time: .

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  http://www.channelc.org/chcforum/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=1&msgid=10083.

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  anybody here looking to get reinstated?
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  At first glance, it appears this is more of a one-man "soap box" initiative than a broad-based call for reform by a multitude of conscientious JWs.